Comments on: The end of Social Promotion?!?! http://blogs.hunsbergermath.com/1141/2009/09/28/the-end-of-social-promotion/ Est. 2007 (formerly "The Hunsblog") Fri, 23 Dec 2011 01:24:42 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Kyle http://blogs.hunsbergermath.com/1141/2009/09/28/the-end-of-social-promotion/comment-page-1/#comment-1382 Kyle Thu, 21 Jan 2010 02:24:48 +0000 http://blogs.hunsbergermath.com/1141/2009/09/28/the-end-of-social-promotion/#comment-1382 I know. It's so frustrating. What's even more frustrating is that those of us who are trying to establish some sort of "student accountability" are automatically labeled as those who are doing so only to relieve the amount of work on ourselves. Nothing could be further from the truth. Student accountability is actually good for students! I know. It’s so frustrating. What’s even more frustrating is that those of us who are trying to establish some sort of “student accountability” are automatically labeled as those who are doing so only to relieve the amount of work on ourselves. Nothing could be further from the truth. Student accountability is actually good for students!

]]> By: Brad http://blogs.hunsbergermath.com/1141/2009/09/28/the-end-of-social-promotion/comment-page-1/#comment-1379 Brad Sun, 17 Jan 2010 09:37:42 +0000 http://blogs.hunsbergermath.com/1141/2009/09/28/the-end-of-social-promotion/#comment-1379 Ive also seen that in the school I work at, kids aren't held back especially if they are behavior problems because the school would have to deal with them for an extra year. While I agree that something needs to be done, there is already such a focus on test scores, I wish that we could look beyond a one day test to see if a student has learned something for the school year. Ive also seen that in the school I work at, kids aren’t held back especially if they are behavior problems because the school would have to deal with them for an extra year. While I agree that something needs to be done, there is already such a focus on test scores, I wish that we could look beyond a one day test to see if a student has learned something for the school year.

]]> By: Susanne Heimbuch http://blogs.hunsbergermath.com/1141/2009/09/28/the-end-of-social-promotion/comment-page-1/#comment-1221 Susanne Heimbuch Wed, 30 Sep 2009 03:48:31 +0000 http://blogs.hunsbergermath.com/1141/2009/09/28/the-end-of-social-promotion/#comment-1221 If you two can convince them to do this, LAUSD will need to hire back the RIFfed K-6 teachers and hire a slew more, to boot. I was told in the beginning - 8 yrs ago - of my teaching career that it is a 'warehouse' issue. They don't have space to hold failing students back. From my own experience, I believe having those two oversized nonperformers in class motivated us NOT to do likewise. If you two can convince them to do this, LAUSD will need to hire back the RIFfed K-6 teachers and hire a slew more, to boot.

I was told in the beginning – 8 yrs ago – of my teaching career that it is a ‘warehouse’ issue. They don’t have space to hold failing students back.

From my own experience, I believe having those two oversized nonperformers in class motivated us NOT to do likewise.

]]> By: Susanne Heimbuch http://blogs.hunsbergermath.com/1141/2009/09/28/the-end-of-social-promotion/comment-page-1/#comment-1220 Susanne Heimbuch Wed, 30 Sep 2009 03:42:34 +0000 http://blogs.hunsbergermath.com/1141/2009/09/28/the-end-of-social-promotion/#comment-1220 In Minnesota, where whole families move to promote thier hockey sons, some folks want their boy-children held back, so they will be bigger and better coordinated than teammates when playing grade-level sports. Some were held back academically, which mostly helped the sports careers of those who were. Didn't make them better readers, tho. In Minnesota, where whole families move to promote thier hockey sons, some folks want their boy-children held back, so they will be bigger and better coordinated than teammates when playing grade-level sports. Some were held back academically, which mostly helped the sports careers of those who were. Didn’t make them better readers, tho.

]]> By: Shredder http://blogs.hunsbergermath.com/1141/2009/09/28/the-end-of-social-promotion/comment-page-1/#comment-1219 Shredder Mon, 28 Sep 2009 18:52:50 +0000 http://blogs.hunsbergermath.com/1141/2009/09/28/the-end-of-social-promotion/#comment-1219 LAUSD used to implement mandatory retention for students at the end of Grade 2. I believe that policy ended at or near the beginning of this decade. Some of middle-schoolers are products of that program. I've always felt that policy should expand to include Grade 5 in elementary schools (Grade 6 for those ES's structured K-6). The rapscallions need to demonstrate some level of proficiency before they enter middle school. How we integrate those kids into a remedial year of learning is ripe for discussion. Do we create wholly-contained remedial classes to address these children's areas of deficiency? Or do we include them in regular general ed classes? What shape and form will the curriculum take? Certainly, the current arrangement of satisfactorily completing summer school as a way of promotion is not the answer. A student who is "not getting it" for 180 days during the school year and then "satisfactorily" completes 80 hours of summer school is then ready to enter the next grade level? C'mon! I don't think so. ......And the beat goes on..... LAUSD used to implement mandatory retention for students at the end of Grade 2. I believe that policy ended at or near the beginning of this decade. Some of middle-schoolers are products of that program. I’ve always felt that policy should expand to include Grade 5 in elementary schools (Grade 6 for those ES’s structured K-6). The rapscallions need to demonstrate some level of proficiency before they enter middle school.

How we integrate those kids into a remedial year of learning is ripe for discussion. Do we create wholly-contained remedial classes to address these children’s areas of deficiency? Or do we include them in regular general ed classes? What shape and form will the curriculum take? Certainly, the current arrangement of satisfactorily completing summer school as a way of promotion is not the answer. A student who is “not getting it” for 180 days during the school year and then “satisfactorily” completes 80 hours of summer school is then ready to enter the next grade level? C’mon! I don’t think so.

……And the beat goes on…..

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